April 96

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Letters, We Get Letters...(edited)

Date: February 24, 1996
From: Bill Dare

I am writing to comment on the newsletter. I've always liked reading it appreciating the effort in writing as well as design. I haven't done anything to contribute to it. As you anticipated in the first paragraph, it was jarring to see it become essentially a document of reprints and e-mail chats. I feel the newsletter has taken a slide but realize the broader direction of the MNC may well be reflected.

Date: February 26, 1996
From: Ray Jones

The newsletter was chock full of good stuff. I was very pleased to see Joseph and Terry's speech in print.

TABLE OF CONTENTS

From the Editors (kf & md) p. 1
CONFERENCES
1996 MNC National Conference and AGM by Paul Lafleur p.1
Love, Justice, Sex and Money (Part II)
by Terry Boyd and Joseph Dunlop-Addley p.2
REGIONAL REPORTS
Challenging Sexist Roles in Parkdale by Tony Rapoport p.6
Issues in Pornography
by Erik Malmsten p.6
Netalk: Edited Excerpts from the e-mail p.7
NOTICES
Wanted p.11
Regional Contacts p.12
THE WAY WE WERE
Macho is Sicko, Genlteness is Strength by Ray Jones p.12

FROM THE EDITORS

First of all we wish to acknowledge the the following communicators with MNC News this past quarter: Harvey Schachter, Ray Jones, Blye Frank, Michael Kaufman, Michael Sperber, Craig Jones, Terry Boyd, Bill Dare, David Rice-Lampert, Wes Darou, Bob Thompson, Bill Usher, Erik Malmsten, Ian Russell, David Nobbs, Andrew Safer, Forrest Smith, Jean Bernard, Susan Scruton, and others who will be named in Netalk.

The 'exciting news' this past quarter has been the absolutely spectacular job done on our home page by Michael Deloughery. It has received about 250 visits since the end of February. Our guess is that represents about 80 to 100 different callers. They come from Texas, Australia, Brazil, Halifax, California, Thunder Bay, Fredericton et al.

Our question now is how will this support or contribute to pro-feminist activism? How do we not only sustain a core of activity but grow. Is there a way to use the net site to reach out to the colleges and universities?

Please send us your news.

CONFERENCES

LOVERS IN A DANGEROUS TIME

Challenging Social and Spiritual Cutbacks
1996 MNC CONFERENCE
Thursday July 18 to Sunday July 21 Ottawa
Paul Lafleur

The planning for the upcoming MNC Annual Conference is well under way. To date we have received $250 in registration fees. We hope to have between 25 and 30 attendees and have beds for up to 60, 30 of which are at or next door to Wanaki-on-the-Ottawa.

Again the conference will be held over three days beginning Thursday evening. Friday will be a day of workshops and focus groups.

Some suggested workshops are:
· Understanding masculinity
· Connections between patriarchal masculinity and domination and violence
· Delivering educational programmes in institutions that challenge men's violence
· Exploring your inner clown

Some suggested focus groups are:
· National communication strategy- What next?
· Engaging younger men in the MNC
· A vision of pro-feminism for the millennium-
implications for group/community engagement

On Saturday we intend to have a panel discussion between a women, a gay man and a person of colour to help give us a perspective on the current social environment and how we might challenge social and spiritual cutbacks.

On Saturday afternoon (at the suggestion of Bert Young) we propose to revisit the themes of the 1991 Ottawa Conference through a reflection on the past and articulating our intentions for the future. The themes are:
1. It begins with me. (The personal is political)
2. Toward emotional literacy and non-violent learning.
3. Create a secure world for women and children.
4. Zero tolerance for violence.
5. Men's challenge and renewal.

If you are interested in doing a workshop or want to have a particular discussion or activity, contact me. We hope that you will make photocopies of the enclosed brochure and distribute them locally.

Lastly the Conference Planning Group is meeting in Ottawa Saturday May 11 combined with the Bill Usher's Hanging Out concert.

Bob Neufeld has arranged for Bill Usher to give a public concert in Ottawa on Saturday May 11 It is also our intention to use this as an opportunity to have an information table and to recruit younger men. We want to piggy-back the core group meeting with the concert.

c/o Paul Lafleur 17 O'Meara Street - Apt. 2 Ottawa ON K1Y 2S7
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LOVE, JUSTICE, SEX AND MONEY
Part II
Keynote Address by Terry Boyd and Joseph Dunlop-Addley
Kingston Men's Conference
October 20-22, 1995


Now we come to the topic of sex. Here we weren't quite sure where to start, so we decided to start where most men start, with masturbation.

When I, Terry, was twelve, my cousin Keith showed me how to masturbate. He was fifteen and a worldly young man who lived in the big city. I was a country bumpkin who had just turned twelve. Keith was fully developed. I was just entering the first stages of puberty. Keith told me that masturbation made you develop faster and BIGGER. Since he was very well developed, I figured I was on to a good thing. For days after that first time, I masturbated furiously and eagerly checked several times a day to see if I was developing. I can remember times when I masturbated so often I had a very sore penis. Of course, eventually my penis did develop. Not to the extent, however, that I had hoped for. You know, Freud had it all wrong: it is men who suffer from penis envy--not women. Like many men, Freud, was projecting. Nonetheless, my masturbatory experiences taught me a lot about my body. Today, I can say without blushing that I celebrate my human sexuality, and masturbation is an important part of that celebration. Joseph, what is it that Woody Allen says? "Don't put down masturbation . . . it's sex with somebody I love." He also said the reason he was such a great lover was because he practised when he was on his own.

Many of you know, I, Joseph, am a self-disclosed RC--Recovering Catholic. It follows, therefore, that I have no masturbation stories. I left them all behind me in the confessional, and if you believe that... From a very early age, I was indoctrinated to believe that it was only tactile things that should be touched--like, school pencils, or one's catechism. But certainly never one's own "private parts." Going out on dates, I was jokingly warned by my big sister, "keep it in your pants, and you won't have any problems." Touching was an emotional quagmire of confused feelings, desires, and fears.

A number of years ago Robyn Harvey and I, Terry, did a workshop on Touching. In preparing for the workshop, Robyn pointed out to me that the word "touch" has more entries in the OED than any other word--21 columns on seven pages. And one of the curious things about touching is that it has conflicting, even contradictory, meanings: there is the nurturing touch of the mother, the abusive touch of the batterer, the sensual touch of a lover, the perverse touch of a child molester, and so on. Yet, at the core (or should we now say the "heart"?) of our existence is a craving to be touched, because through touching we are recognized and validated.

The second year Joseph and I attended the Grindstone men's conference, I remember sitting in a workshop on homophobia in which a young man said, "I have nothing against gays--but I think it is disgusting that these guys go about groping each other is city parks." He raved on about the guys who had recently been arrested in the parks in Winnipeg (I think it was). After he finished there was a long silence. Then Andrew Butler, some of you may remember Andrew, said that the young man just didn't get it. These men go to parks to meet other men because they, just like you, crave to touch and be touched by another, but, because that other is a man, our society denies them that touching, considers it perverse touching and forces them to go underground into parks and washrooms.

The point is our "bodies are our first, closest, and most powerful connection to both ourselves and all else. The loving touch of flesh upon flesh is the first reassurance that one is a self in a world of caring selves" (Brock). As Gloria Steinem says in Revolution From Within, "Being touched and held is our earliest source of self-discovery--and a continuing need."

For us, the defining feature of loving and safe touch, of erotic love, is reciprocity. Reciprocity has been named by others as the golden rule (do onto others as you would have them do unto you), and love your neighbour as yourself. But regardless of the construct, we believe reciprocity defines co-creative relationships which are erotic in Brock's best sense of the word.

Of course, some people like to think that sex has nothing to do with economics or politics. We don't agree. The sexual is economic; the sexual is political. In reciprocal relationships one does not own one's lover/partner/spouse. Sexual partners are not property. It is not my house, my car, my wife, etc.

Another way of expressing this concept of reciprocity is by analogy: love is not a pie--love is not something which can be cut up and consumed a slice at a time. Reciprocal love--what Brock calls erotic love--is unconditional love: each participant, therefore, respects and embraces the choices of the other participant(s) openly and freely. I have no right to claim ownership over wife/lover/friend. They are free agents not my possessions.

Everything in our culture works against this concept of love. There, love is grounded in sentimentality, ownership, and the ideology of romanticism. If you believe that you have found Mr. or Mrs. Right, then you have your hands on a commodity that you don't want to lose, and you expect your investment in the relationship to be interest bearing, with a big pay off not unlike mortgaging a house--or should we say a love boat?

Some ten years ago I, Joseph, wrote a poem which addresses sexual politics and the importance of reciprocity. It's entitled "bodies politic":

come love
let's be one another's antithetical selves
first infra then superstructures
one another's polarities sotospeak

revolutionary abandonment yes
but there's no being without sexual politics
even a bed's an ideological construct

butterflied stomachs
and uneaten scrambled eggs on our plates
and you don't think desire's political?
people starve for all kinds of things

don't know if our minds are in our stomachs
or vice versa--
as always we're dialectical

romantic utopians to our very extremities
come love
let's be one another's liberation theologies
let's dare imagine a finer collective world
ourselves included
and always always come back to good hard praxis

One day in September on our way back from Marion's mom's burial, Terry and I saw an electronic billboard visible from the Gardiner Expressway: "We've committed the golden rule to memory; now we need to commit it to life." What immediately came to mind is how hypocritical in Harris Ontario. But the Power of Naming is not just in the hands of those with electronic billboards.

Elizabeth Renzetti's recent article in the Globe and Mail, "k.d.lang:Let's get it on," is a good spring board for this section on the power of naming when she writes, "Reclamation of words and beliefs is a subject much on [k.d.'s] mind." Naming is an essential tool for k.d. to fight the bigots who want to marginalize her. Keanu Reeves, another star much in the news, also understands the importance of naming; when questioned in Vanity Fair (August 1995) about his own sexual orientation, Reeves makes an important point: "Well, I mean, there's nothing wrong with being gay, so to deny it is to make a judgment. And why make a big deal of it?" In Politics and the English Language, George Orwell cautions against the debasement of language, e.g., calling anyone whose politics you disagree with a "fascist." The misused/debased term loses the power to name real fascism when it is present in our lives.

The New Right's strategy is clear: take the language of progressive people, our language, and distort its original meaning. Then use it as weapon against us. In the video Backlash to Change, Michael Kaufman states, "political correctness was first termed by progressive people and feminists as a joke... it was meant to correct excess," our own "excess." Now the term is thrown in our faces by those who define themselves as guardians of freedom. As Lorraine Greaves makes clear in the same video, not all criticism is backlash. In keeping with Lorraine's observation, we who are working for progressive social change must remain open to legitimate criticism of our work if we are truly to make a difference. However, we must deny the new right the power of naming; we must take control of the naming process. We have to find creative ways to undermine the new right's monopoly of the mass media.

The Oct. 7th "Insight" section of Sunday Star reported, "The Right on Target: Hundreds of programs disappear as Tories move toward redefining the nature of government." The previous day, the Star reported, "ministry of community and social services soon will redefine the meaning of disability, disqualifying thousands of people now eligible for higher benefits than those which go to people considered able to work." Minister David Tsubouchi is quoted as saying, "You have to define [he means "redefine"] disabilities. . . We've clearly gone to a medical definition of disability and unfortunately, that's what the catchment is going to be." The Globe reported the "Alberta government has become the first in Canada to say it will not pay for abortion on demand" and that "the province's medical community will be asked to draw up guidelines to describe [read "redefine"!] what is medically necessary." The Alberta Government only backed down because the doctors, mostly privileged white males, refused to write new guidelines. There is, however, a lesson for all of us: refuse to let the New Right define the terminology and reality of what is being orchestrated.

Michael Kimmel, the editor of Men Confront Pornography, was kind enough to send us a copy of a speech he gave a couple of years ago in Toronto and which he has now published as an essay "Masculinity as Homophobia." In this piece, Michael speaks of the patriarchal system of government known to political scientists as hegemony. From this Michael derives the hegemonic definition of manhood as "a man IN power, a man WITH power, and a man OF power... " Michael goes on to say the following. (As we read his words, think about how they fit what is currently happening in Harris' Ontario or Preston Manning's vision of Canada)

"Our culture's definition of masculinity is thus several stories at once. It is about the individual man's quest to accumulate those cultural symbols they denote manhood, signs that he has in fact achieved it. It is about those standards being used against women to prevent their inclusion in public life and their consignment to a devalued private sphere. It is about the differential access that different types of men have to those cultural resources that confer manhood and about how each of these groups then develop its own modifications to preserve and claim its manhood. It is about the power of these definitions themselves to serve to maintain the real-life power that men have over women and some men have over other men."

In Beyond Power, Marilyn French shows the great costs, historically and presently, to all of us when a power over model is embraced rather than the model she proposes--power with!

In the book, Tommy Douglas: The Road to Jerusalem, Thomas and Ian McLeod note that Douglas spoke of "the social gospel, 'practical Christianity' [as] 'the application of the gospel to social conditions' [in] response to the stark miseries of the industrial age." Establishing democratic socialism in the mainstream of Canadian politics, Douglas stood in the tradition of "populist" movements of his time. Today, "populist" is debased for, in truth, it is a code word for "taxpayer," for the middle and upper middle class--for the establishment (not the people).

In an insightful article in the Star, "Three Populist Feelings that Put Harris in Power," Thomas Walkom argues that the first "populist" feeling is "resentment" and that "With his attacks on welfare recipients, Harris has unlocked these grudges and brought them tumbling out." Walkom argues that the second "populist" feeling is "the urge for freedom, the desire of people to control their own futures." But really, it's an illusion of individual freedom of little or any consequence: we can decide if we want to wear a bicycle helmet, but "the 'reality' of the global economy prevents nation-states from exercising any effective role.... As a result, popular anger focuses not on great injustices but on small irritations." The third "populist" feeling is "the desire for democracy [which] the Tories have successfully appropriated": they "define their critics as 'special interests' and make that a [negative] phrase"; then they premise their definition of democracy so that "if government is responsible to taxpayers rather than the public as a whole, it stands to reason those who pay more [taxes] should have a greater say." As we read Walkom article, we thought rather than "Rep by Pop," it sounds like "Rep by Buck": the higher your tax bracket, the higher your power in naming, and therefore controlling, the political agenda.

A current case in point (and one that leads nicely into our next section on money) is in our own backyard at Camp Ipperwash, where first nations people are occupying land which they claim as their own. Under the heading of "Natives," the London Free Press reports, "Land claims unite residents." It tells of the formation of a group called "ON FIRE--Ontario Federation of Individual Rights and Equality," who are angry at the "separation of our country into hunks and chunks, including a separate justice system for natives." The organizers of ON FIRE in their own words "hope to prevent racism in the group by requiring that members agree to several principles, including one calling for equal rights." What's behind their supposedly anti-racist strategy? Let's redefine "equal rights." Let's all buy into equal rights for ALL and thereby defocus from the legality of land claims by first nations people--and save the property values of OUR cottages.

John Myles, Director of the Pepper Institute on Aging and Public Policy at Florida State Univ., declared at a recent breakfast sponsored by the Social Science Federation of Canada (as quoted by MacQueen, Southam News) it is not the cost of our social programs that has created the deficit, it is 'the God of the Free Market'--beloved engine of the alleged economic recovery. By driving down wages, paying less for more work and longer hours, forcing those under 35 into underpaid service jobs, maintaining an unemployment rate at 10% of the work force, the new economy has in truth created a growing underclass; in fact, for many years, our social programs have actually masked this process of the rich becoming richer at the expense of the poor. The ideology that the poor are causing our deficits because they are a drain on our economy is a myth by which the rich and powerful (read patriarchy) can justify the redistribution of wealth from the poor and marginalized to their own back pockets. In "To Have and Have Not: Notes on the Progress of the American Class War" (Harper's Magazine, June 1995), Michael Lind reinforces the reality of the rich and powerful by (re)naming them for what they truly are--the overclass!

There is a second myth involved in the deficit/debt cutting process: That cutting costs is the single and sole agenda of governments. We need only take a careful look at things being cut in Ontario to prove the myth false: How did cutting photo radar save money? How did cutting halfway houses save money when the cost of keeping a person in prison is twice that of a halfway house? How did cutting youth programs save money when the government will turn around and hire more police to handle street crime? Let's be clear, deficit cutting has become a convenient tool for the rich and powerful to reassert their patriarchal agenda on our society. And boy, do they know how to "name" it. Andrew Coyne in the Globe writes, "After 30 years of deficit spending, however, balancing the budget is a little like popping the pimple on the surface of a much larger boil. What matters now is the debt, the ghost of deficits past...." Charles Dickens could take lessons from Coyne about writing purple prose.

Consider a recent headline in the London Free Press: "Women's shelter head says government like an abusive man in treatment agencies" Karen Hunter, Executive Director of Women's Interval House in Sarnia, says the provincial government is treating women's shelters and other social service agencies the way an abusive man treats his spouse. Just look at some of the parallels she draws: an abusive spouse believes he knows what's best for his partner--just as the Harris government believes it has the medicine which will make us all well, whether we like it or not. An abusive spouse seeks to isolate his partner from the support of others--just as the Harris government is trying to isolate social service agencies in order to minimize opposition to its cuts. An abusive spouse controls the purse strings, determines where the money will be spent and does not consult his partner--once again, the parallels to the Harris government are obvious. In making these observations, we want to make clear that it is not our intention to demonize Harris. We know from experience that demonizing the abuser does not change his behaviour. He needs to be educated to take responsibility for his abusive behaviour.

In way of summing up, what is it which we as profeminist men (working in partnership with feminists and others) need to do? We need to insist that social change must always be progressive--grounded in love, not fiscal policies that victimize some people to the benefit (monetary and otherwise) of other people. We need to acknowledge that ours is truly a broken-hearted society and reaffirm our profeminist commitment to work to heal it. We need to work to redefine family in a non-patriarchal way, to replace the patriarchal family with the celebratory diversity of co-creative families. We need to demand heartfelt justice that is not punitive but rehabilitative, and which does not marginalize anyone. We need to masturbate! As well, we need to embrace co-creative interactions in all our relationships. We need to be creative in denying the new right the power of naming and thereby (mis)representing reality. We need to embrace a vision which surmounts the darkness and which is rooted in love Eugene Smith was an American photographer, and a true mentor. He photographed the deplorable "living" conditions of Japanese POW's in American W.W. II concentration camps and thereby changed those conditions; he was the first American photojournalist to do a photo story foregrounding and celebrating the bravery of a black person, a nurse, and thereby challenge racism; he photographed the effects of mercury poisoning on the people in a poor fishing village in Minamata, Japan. Smith was a keen observer of the human condition--he called himself a "compassionate cynic." Smith suffered serious war injuries when he was documenting W.W.II and thought that he might never make another photograph. Fortunately for us, he did. Here is what he said about that the making of that photograph:

"Finally, I decided to try, but it was very difficult. My face was still pouring pus and it was draining into the camera and my nerves were . . . I was not only about to go through the ceiling but through the sky. I decided to try, anyway. I got the whole family out of the house, except my two children. Then, I took them for a walk. I wanted it to be a good picture, to contradict and contrast with my war pictures, the last photographs that I had taken. So I followed the children, and I saw them stepping into this space as they went along the path. I stopped and clumsily tried to focus, and as they stepped into the space, I made the photograph. I felt that it was fairly good.



[I entitled the photograph] 'The Walk to Paradise Garden.' Most people think it has a religious connotation, but it's as much a tribute to music as anything. There is an opera by Delius called A Village Romeo and Juliet, and one piece of the music is called 'The Walk to Paradise Garden.' I've left it with an ambiguous title so that anyone can take from it what they wish. But it's basically my tribute to music and to humanity, because I think it shows hope."

In keeping with our own cynical optimism, we wish to end our presentation on Smith's image of hope. Out of darkness, into the light we will walk hand-in-hand (boys and girls, men and women) towards a future in which money is the basis for sharing power with others rather than power over others, a future in which human sexuality is celebrated in all of its richness and diversity, a future in which families are co-creative, a future in which justice is transparent and equitable for all, a future in which human existence is rooted in love--in erotic love!

(Joseph Dunlop-Addley is a profeminist/socialist theorist and college professor with special focus on fine arts, film, photography and other mass media. His most recent project has been as one executive producer of the video, Backlash to Change: Moving Beyond Resistance. Terry Boyd is a Christian existentialist, whose doctorate is in social and political thought, and a college administrator. Joseph is an accomplished cook and Terry a computer whiz. Both are activists in the anti-violence & AIDS movements. They live together in London with Marion Boyd, Tina Boyd--when she's not away at university--their Sheltie Tiff and cat Cleo.)

Works Cited

Backlash to Change: Moving Beyond Resistance. Available from Equity Services, University of Western Ontario (London) 519-661-3334.

Brock, Rita Nakashima. Journeys by Heart: A Christology of Erotic Power. N.Y.: Crossroad, 1988.

Bronski, Michael. "I'll Cry Tomorrow: Susan Hayward, Summer Nights, and the Scent of Memory." Friends and Lovers: Gay Men Write About the Families They Create. Ed. John Preston and Michael Lowenthal. N.Y.: Dutton, 1995. This is a wonderful new anthology which also includes Andrew Holleran's "Friends," a beautifully written essay about all kinds of friendships, gay and non-gay.

Browning, Frank. The Culture of Desire: Paradox and Perversity in Gay Lives Today. N.Y.: Crown, 1993.

Barlow, Maude, and Heather-Jane Robertson. Class Warfare: The Assault on Canada's Schools. Toronto: Key Porter, 1994.

Carl, Julie. "Women's Shelter Head Says Government Like Abusive Man in Treatment of Agencies." London Free Press 12 October 1995.

Coulson, Sandra. "Land Claims Unite Residents." London Free Press 2 October 1995: B1.

Coyne, Andrew. "Envisioning a Sustainable Debt." Globe and Mail 14 October 1995: D1.

Duncanson, John, Nick Pron, and Jim Rankin. "Deal with the Devil." and "How Police Dragnet Missed a Murderer." Toronto Star 3 September 1995: F1+.

French, Marilyn. Beyond Power: On Women, Men and Morals. N.Y.: Summit, 1985.

"Halfway House Plan Short-Sighted." Editorial. London Free Press 5 October 1995: B6.

Hill, Paul, and Thomas Cooper. "Interview with W. Eugene Smith, 1977." Photography in Print:Writings from 1816 to the Present. Ed. Vicki Goldberg. 432-41. Smith's photograph "The Walk to Paradise Garden" is often reprinted. It appears as a final image in Edward Steichen's The Family of Man. N.Y.: MOMA, 1955.

Kimmel, Michael. "Masculinity as Homophobia." Theorizing Masculinities. Ed. Harry Brod and Michael Kaufman. Thousand Oaks: Sage, 1994. 119-41.

Lind, Michael. "To Have and to Have Not: Notes on the Progress of the American Class War." Harper's Magazine 290:1741 (June 1995): 35-47.

MacQueen, Ken. "The Rich Are Getting Richer and the Poor Are Getting Poorer." London Free Press.

McLeod, Thomas and Ian. Tommy Douglas: The Road to Jerusalem. Edmonton: Hurtig, 1987.

McQuaig. Shooting the Hypo: Death by Deficit and Other Canadian Myths. Toronto: Viking, 1995.

Mitchell, Alanna. "Alberta to Restrict Abortion Access." As well, Canadian Press' "Decision by Alberta Doctors Thwarts Abortion-Policy Change." Globe and Mail.

Renzetti, Elizabeth. "k.d. lang: Let's Get It on." Globe and Mail.

Shnayerson, Michael. "The Wild One: Keanu Reeves on Sex, Hollywood and Life on the Run." Variety Fair 420 (August 1995): 94-100+.

Sontag, Susan. "Trip to Hanoi." Styles of Radical Will. N.Y.: Farrar, 1969.

Steinem, Gloria. Revolution from Within: A Book of Self-Esteem. Toronto: Little, 1993.

Orwell, George. "Politics and the English Language." One of Orwell's most often anthologized essays.

Toughill, Kelly. "The Right on Target: Hundreds of Programs Disappear as Tories Move Toward Redefining the Nature of Government." Toronto Star 7 October 1995.

Trask, Haunami-Kay. Eros and Power: The Promise of Feminist Theory. Philadelphia: U of Pennsylvania P., 1986.

Walkom, Thomas. "The Three Populist Feelings that Put Harris in Power." Toronto Star 30 September 1995.

REGIONAL REPORTS

Challenging Sexist Roles in Parkdale
by Tony Rapoport
(from the MMAV Newsletter Issue #16 Feb./Mar.

I had a chance to try a new technique in an anti-violence workshop recently. On December 6th, Steve Rosenberg and I led a workshop for young men at Parkdale Collegiate. It was Steve's first workshop since joining the Public Education Committee, and we decided to spend part of the time on a role-playing exercise that he had designed. When we met on the evening before to plan our session, I was a bit daunted by Steve's idea, which seemed rather ambitious to me. He had developed a scenario about a woman suing her former boss for workplace harassment, with roles for the two principals in the case, a judge and three jury members. An added wrinkle was that she was not accusing the boss of harassing her directly, but of allowing the harassment to take place. In a further complexity, the woman had at times tried to deal with the harassment by responding in kind. I tried to imagine getting teenage men to improvise the parts in this adult drama, especially as the plaintiff, and found my imagination challenged, but we went with it. The result was amazing.

The role play began with a simple but brilliant gesture by the student playing the judge, who insisted that everyone in the room rise as he took his seat. The whole group was immediately involved in the scenario, instead of just watching it. We expected the role of the female plaintiff to be the most challenging part for a young man to play, but the student who took it on had a sure touch. He began with a slight campiness to get past the discomfort of the cross-gendered casting, then played the part with utter seriousness, articulating the character's grievance and her feelings with complete conviction. The student playing the defendant brought a quality efforts to solve his employees' problems fairly, but insisting that he couldn't be expected to alter the whole culture of his workplace because of one worker who couldn't fit in.

I was in suspense as the jury considered the case, because the three students playing jury members had not spoken yet, so I couldn't guess their sympathies. But they returned a decision of the maximum penalty against the employer, citing his responsibility to provide a harassment-free environment for his workers.

The sophistication of the role-playing, and the acceptance of the justice of the anti-sexist law-suit, were impressive by any standards. The experience was especially interesting because almost all of the students involved had learned English as a second or third language. On the anniversary of the Montreal massacre, it was an inspiring reason to hope we might be getting somewhere in our efforts to change our sexist male culture.

Issues in Pornography
by Erik Malmsten
(from the MMAV Newsletter Issue #17 Apr./May

If we are going to discuss at the April 3 MMAV meeting, we need to be aware of the complexity of the issue.

1) We need to listen to women's experiences of how pornography has damaged them in their lives, and believe them.

· Men have learned twisted sexual values such as "no" means "yes," that women enjoy forced sex and vulgar language, genital contact is all there is to sex, or lesbians just have foreplay and they really want a man.
· Men have learned sexual acts from pornography and forced women to do sexual acts that they didn't want to do, have criticized women's body shapes as not being attractive like the women they see in pornography.
· Men have exposed women to pornography to limit the participation of women in the workplace, and to threaten women with rape. Men have been taught by pornography that all women are possible sexual partners worth persuading if you find their appearance arousing.
· Some women have been forced by gunpoint or economics to sell their bodies.

2) We need to set pornography within the scope of society.

· A patriarchal society which is sexist, ageist, racist, and discriminates by ablism, and body size. A society where most women are afraid of men because some men are raping, battering and killing women. Does pornography reflect social values or create new sexual attitudes? If there were no pornography would rape stop? Or be reduced? Would women have economic equality?
· Who profits from pornography? Are women making money, empowering themselves?
· Why are teenagers the major users of pornography? Are male users increasing their self-esteem, feeling good about their sexuality? Why do pornography users have to keep buying new magazines and videos? Would their needs, which are met by pornography, go away if we took it away from them?
· What are the other media that exploit sexuality: advertising, movies, popular music, and romance novels? Other businesses such as beauty, diet and fitness products? How do they impact on behaviour? How much of men's time is spent with pornography versus other media?
· Our society has a widespread acceptance of hierarchical oppression of other people, animals and nature. The media has been used to glorify war and the power of mankind to destroy.

3) We need to separate from pornography the feelings that arise from related issues.

· (state) censorship. The historic use of laws to crack down on gay and lesbian sexuality, and an erect penis is obscene whereas soft-core rape isn't.
· child pornography, which has always been illegal.
· Religious control of sexuality. Messages such as nudity and masturbation are bad.
· Personal revulsion at seeing sexual acts that you wouldn't do. Do we have the right to criticize what other consenting adults enjoy?
· Personal guilt or shame over one's past or present sexual activity, objectification of women.

4) We need to consider how people would behave sexually in our ideal society and how do we move to that state. Looking at sex education alternates to learning from pornography. Is it possible to have sex without the visual objectification of your sex partner, or can you objectify your partner sexually and still accept their self determination and equality? Should sex be limited to monogamous couples; then, what does everyone else do with their sexual feelings?

Netalk Winter/Spring '96 (Edited)
e-mail: mensnet@magi.com
Web site: http://infoweb.magi.com/~mensnet/
Contact for Web site comments or suggestions: Michael Deloughery

Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 16:22:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Harvey Schachter <5hs@qsilver.queensu.ca>
Subject: Re: April Meeting

I too hope you'll have people at the conference. But I should warn that enthusiasm in general seems down from last year and I expect most Kingston people will be umbrella committee for our own conference this year. Still, Ottawa is awfully close ....

Later, Harvey added..
Three of us met this week to start planning for the next Kingston Conference. We were looking at April 13th or April 20th for an one-day meeting of an umbrella group here in Kingston to develop themes, structure and title for the conference. (the 20th is the day)

Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 18:21:54 -0400
From: Roger Davies <ac760@ccn.cs.dal.ca>

Utne Lens has some material this issue that might be of interest:

* Special Section: The Virtuous Male
+ [7]Editor's Note Masses of Men
+ [8]The Virtuous Male by Keith Thompson
+ [9]Joy And Doubt On The Mall The Million Man March and me
+ [10]Queen For A Day One woman among the million men
+ [11]Among The Promise Keepers An inside look at the evangelical
men's movement.

and, a book review: Listen Up: Voices From the Next Feminist Generation edited by Barbara Findlen (Seal Press, $12.95) The emerging generation of women has been accused of being squeamish about the term feminist.. The media have portrayed this as a failing of young women, but Barbara Findlen, editor of Listen Up: Voices From the Next Feminist Generation, sees it as a sign of strength: "What may appear to be a splintering in this generation often comes from an honest assessment of our differences as each of us defines her place and role in feminism."

Utne Lens can be found at: Linkname: THE UTNE LENS -- February 1996
URL: http://www.utne.com/

regards to all, Roger Davies Halifax

Date: 02 Mar 96 15:22:10 EST
From: Liam Breen <100031.3662@compuserve.com>
To: Jean Bernard <jcbern@execulink.com>
Subject: Re: Censorship in the offing?

Dear Jean,
I am also interested in making contacts with groups nearer home (Dublin) with a view to linking up and discussing domestic violence and mens groups in particular. So any info would be gratefully received. Sincerely, Liam Breen

From: Jean Bernard <jcbern@execulink.com>
Executive Director
Changing Ways (London) Inc.

Hello friends.
I have replied in part to Liam's request. I also said I would forward his message to a couple of sources which could provide additional suggestions. I didn't identify you to him.

from Michael Kaufman
Michael Kimmel may have some Irish contacts. mkimmel@ccvm.sunysb.edu

from Roger Davies
A posting to the listserv Mailmen, which is moderated from the UK might bring some responses. I don't have the sign-up address for that list handy, but could probably locate it on the net if there are difficulties getting it.

from Michael Deloughery
I got the two following responses to a request for contacts for Liam: If I get any more I'll pass them on.

From: Thanks for your efforts, Michael. Jean Bernard, Executive Director, Changing Ways (London) Inc.

Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:11:14 -0500
From: mensnet@magi.com (Mens Network for Change)
Subject: Contacts in Ireland

A man is interested in making contacts with groups in Ireland with a view to linking up and discussing domestic violence and mens groups in particular.
Any leads to pass on? Michael For the MNC MensNet

Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:32:00 -0500
From: Terry Boyd BoydT@www.FanshaweC.on.ca
Subject: Centre for Research

Michael,

Please add the following location to your list of URLS on the mensnet:
http://www.fanshawec.on.ca/PandP/Violence/Index.htm

Can I also put in a plug for our new company: COMMplus consultants:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com:80/homepages/Terry_Boyd/commplus.htm

You are doing a great job. Terry

Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:05:44 -0500
From: mensnet@magi.com (Mens Network for Change)
Subject: Announcing the MensNet Marketplace

We are adding a new page to the web site. Its called the Market Place and it will list any goods or services that members to the MNC would like to inform other members about. So if you have something to sell, trade or barter please let us know. If you have something you are happy to give away that would be great also. We're considering this a "kind-of want-ads". We are also interested if you have any comments about this service.

To: mensnet@magi.com
From: Ian Russell <irussell@inforamp.net>
Subject: help request

Metro Men Against Violence received a letter recently from the Annapolis County Women's Coalition asking for information on similar groups in their part of the country. Can anyone help? The organization's address is Box 118, Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia B0S 1M0.

Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:05:14 -0500 (EST)
From: istudio@magi.com (Michel Levac)
Subject: Re: Announcing the MensNet Marketplace

I am opposed to any kind of marketing on the mensnet web site, I think it trivializes the site. Thanks, Michel

Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:30:12 -0400
From: Peter Davison PDavison@ccn.cs.dal.ca

Ian, Men For Change in Halifax will contact these folks since we are only a 2.5 hour drive away. Curious how they mailed to Ontario. Funny how information is gathered.

To all others on this mail list the home page address for our counterparts in the USA is <http://www.spacestar.com/users/abtnomas/">
The National Organization for Men Against Sexism (NOMAS)

Peter Davison Men For Change Box 33005 Quinpool P.O. B3L 4T6 Halifax (902)492-4104

"How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single minute before starting to improve the world." -Ann Frank

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 00:05:03 -0500
From: jerik@maple.net (Erik Malmsten)

Hi, I'm working hard on the MMAV Training Manual. We will be looking for peer reviewers before publishing. Please update my address, I've been bumped to jerik@map.hookup.net. Thanks, Erik

Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 08:48:19
From: "Wes Darou" <wes_darou@acdi-cida.gc.ca>

Hi guys, In the last newsletter, you mentioned the book Uprooting Racism. I tried to call the 1-800 number, but it is one that only works in the U.S.A. Do you have more ordering information I can use, for example the city of the publisher?

Thanks, Wes Darou, Counselling Services, CIDA

Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 20:18:11
From: Ken Fisher kfisher@magi.com

Uprooting Racism by Paul Kivel New Society Publishers 4527 Springfield Avenue Philadelphia PA USA 19143 His office number in Oakland is 510-654-3015 658 Vernon Street South East Oakland CA USA 94610

Other books of his are...
·Men's Work: To Stop Men's Violence Oakland Men's Project
·Helping Teens Stop Violence: A practical Guide for Counsellors, Educators and Parents. There are many good exercises in this book.
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 16:07:14
From: Michael Sperber <msperber@ccigate.acdi-cida.gc.ca>
Subject: Lovers in a Dangerous Time

I
have been copied on a number of your e-mails to one of my colleagues - Wes Darou. I have been involved in a men's group in the Outaouais for about one year. One of about eight groups in the region affiliated with Réseau Hommes Québec. I am interested in some of the work you are doing but unfortunately am out-of-town this weekend. Our group has been working very successfully (6 men who have grown very supportive and close). We tend to work more on a personal growth and individual experience level rather than deal at this point with global political questions.

Could you please copy me on any of your information and i will distribute it within my group (I don't imagine that there is much that has been done in french). Hopefully at some point we will be able to touch base. Thanks

Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 08:39:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Harvey Schachter <5hs@qsilver.queensu.ca>

.....By the way, I like the marketplace on the MNC home page. We should know what one another do for a living and if there's choice help each other. I suspect as there are more names on it, the thing will look less commercial (for those who hate commercial) and more like a yellow pages of friends.

>Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 00:57:25 -0500
From: jerik@maple.net (Erik Malmsten)
Subject: Re: Uprooting Racism

The training book, which is highly recommended by Metro Men Against Violence in Toronto, is Helping Teens Stop Violence: A Practical Guide for Educators, counsellors, and parents by Allan Creighton with Paul Kivel; Hunter House 1992

Another recommended book on racism is Killing Rage: Ending Racism by bell hooks; New York: Henry Holt and Company, 1995.

Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 09:33:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Kivel <pkivel@netcom.com>
Subject: Uprooting Racism

Hi all, To order Uprooting Racism within Canada there are two numbers, 800-387-0141 for Ont. and Que. and 800-387-1072 for the other provinces.
Hi Michael, good to hear from you. No, I don't have a homepage, I'm not even on the web yet, but I would like to be on your emailing list. Please encourage anyone who wants to chat to send me a message. Best, Paul

Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 19:02:51 -0500
From: mensnet@magi.com (Mens Network for Change)
Subject: Publications on the Web Site

If you have an article, talk, etc. that would be relevant to the MNC and you are willing to offer it to a wider audience, we are willing to put it up on the Web page.

Send electronic copies of your pieces to this address as an attachment. If you have a number of pieces, you can send as a Zipped file (PC) or compressed with Stuffit or Compact Pro (Mac). Please have it titled and credited and acknowledge sources.

Also, anyone who has articles or whole editions of previous MNC newsletters in electronic form, we would love to add them to the archives on the Web site. Thanks in advance, Michael for MensNet

Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 16:58:12 -0500
From: Karen Beaton <kbeaton@gale.lakeheadu.ca>
Subject: Cornell Update

Just a note: In your last newsletter, you published an email which listed the Top 75 Reasons Why Women Should Not Have the Freedom of Speech. I located this update in the CASHHE's March Newsletter: Cornell Charges Four Students in E-mail Prank A vulgar email message listing the "Top 75 reasons why women (bitches) should not have freedom of speech' is creating an electronic furore as it zips around the Internet. For not only does the list include reasons like, '38 If she can't speak, she can't cry rape', it also includes the names of the four Cornell University freshmen who wrote it. The four men have apologized publicly and electronically. They face university sanctions - at least one charge of sexual harassment has been referred to Cornell's judicial board. However, the sexual harassment complaint might be difficult to pursue because it was not made by any of the 20 original recipients of the e-mail. The university's sexual harassment guidelines require that for a violation to be found, one of the original recipients must file the charge. None of the 20 has filed a complaint.

Source: Webb Report Premiere Publishing, Ltd. 145 North West 85th, Suite 201 Seattle, Washington 98117 Permission to quote up to 300 words

Thought that may interest you, Karen Beaton, Lakehead University Student Union,Gender Issues Centre Director

Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 19:01:48 -0500
From: bamboom@interlog.com (Bill Usher)
Subject: Showcase video available

Hi everybody, I just wanted to let everyone on the list know that we video taped a concert that I gave on Int. Women's Day at Bloor Street United here in Toronto. The concert was with three other players: Michael Calladine, my step-son (he of "Baby Boomers Go Boom") on back-up vocals and percussion; Neil Chapman on guitars and Eric Terreau on keyboards. We taped the whole evening with two cameras (broadcast quality) and then I worked with a director friend, Luc Iogna of Mixed Company to edit a collection of excerpts together to make a 28 minute showcase of my work.

I had just come back from over three weeks of school and community concerts up in the Yukon and BC and the feedback that I got was that my CD demo (with the full band recording) didn't accurately reflect the warmth and humour of my concerts. It seemed that it was best to invest the money from the tour into something that could save me a few thousand words of description every time someone asks.

Luc and I are shaping the evening into a show called 'heartBEAT' - which 'explores the emotionally rocky terrain of growing up - from teenager to middleager, from childhood to parenthood...' The idea of the video is to spread the word and to dig up some opportunities for concerts. To that end, if any of you out there would like to have a look at it, send me a note and I can loan a copy out to you. Thanks.

Bill Usher 100 Bain Ave. 19 The Aberdeens Toronto M4K 1E8 (416) 465-1335 bamboom@interlog.com

Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:35:27 -0500
Here is information regarding Changing Ways new Manual. They are already receiving head-swelling accolades from practitioners as far flung as Vancouver and points south in the USA. Michael D.

Challenging Men Toward Safety and Responsibility in Their Primary Relationships

Changing Ways has just published a very comprehensive counsellor's manual based on our studies of numerous men's programs and based on the evolution of our own program.

The highlights of the manual are that it presents:

· Nine program components covering essential intervention topics, including among others, safety, responsibility, empathy, power and control, communication, parenting
· Detailed user-friendly exercises and handouts
· A chapter on accountable delivery of men`s programs including standards and templates for future program developments
· Practical policies for implementing safety and accountability
· A comprehensive chapter on the structure and process of group counselling abusive men, including practical guidelines for challenging
· A list of resources,239 pages, bound. The cost is $49.95 CDN + $8.00 shipping and handling.

We will accept a purchase order on your Agency's letterhead. Individuals please prepay with shipping instructions. Send orders to the following address:

Jean Bernard Executive Director Changing Ways (London) Inc. 205 Horton Street Suite 202 London ON N6B 1K7 CANADA voice: (519) 438-9869 fax: 438-9780 e-mail: jcbern@execulink.com

Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 09:38:45 -0500
From: Lance Willard <mars@ccsi.com>
Subject:Organizational info on Men Against Racism & Sexism

>Men Against Racism & Sexism Purpose and Position Statement

Men Against Racism & Sexism is a pro-feminist, anti-prejudice organization whose multi-purpose goals are as follows:
1. To work with organizations to reduce prejudice and teach diversity programs and self-run inter-organizational support groups. Work with company management and organizational leaders to lower potential liability lawsuits and improve ALL internal relationships.
2. To teach prejudice reduction and diversity/oppression awareness classes to the general public. To teach peer-listening techniques with equal amount of time for EVERYONE.
3. To organize young boys, teen-age and young adult men through various means such as books, literature, music concerts and meetings/gather-ins.
4. To work with ALL organizations working to end oppression in all of it's forms world wide. This means participation in their activities and full invitation to ours.

We actively and visibly take the stance that:
1. Violence against women and men must be firmly eliminated in all forms.
2. White people are responsible for ending racism in all forms.
3. All men are responsible for ending sexism in all forms.
4. All men and women are completely good and worthwhile. Even when actions are contradictory they are still completely good. This is vital to remember as we rescue our violent brothers from their patterned actions.
5. All men are trained, coerced and forced by society into being sexist as young people. However all men are completely capable of breaking free of external and internal sexist pulls.
6. All white people are trained, coerced and forced by society into being racist as young people. However all white people are completely capable of breaking free of external and internal racist pulls.
7. More men of ALL backgrounds, classes, races, and religions must get
involved in order to truly eliminate all forms of oppression. These include: Racism, Sexism, Homophobia, Gay Oppression, Anti-Semitism, Classism and Male Oppression (not the same as Sexism).

For more information regarding any of these projects or positions please contact us at:
Men Against Racism & Sexism 517 Sacramento Drive Austin, Texas USA 78704 Phone/FAX: 512-326-9686 E-MAIL: mars@ccsi.com Thank you, Lance Willard, Founder of M.A.R.S.

From: Lance Willard <mars@ccsi.com>
Subject: membership
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 06:34:18 -0500

Dear Friend, I have been doing pro-feminist men's work for several years but have just recently left my full time job to pursue doing this work full time now. Things are somewhat financially "in swing" though there is definitely light at the end of this tunnel.But I cannot see M.A.R.S. being able to pay $30.00 this year for dues. If a $10.00 entry fee is acceptable for our situation please tell me where to mail the check to and it is as good as there.

Although Canada and Texas are separate geographically I think it is imperative that we stay in contact to exchange ideas and info and events.
MARS does have LOCAL membership dues but not inter-country like mensnet (yet). I will however consider you a proud member of MARS and that would mean:
1.Promote your web page everywhere we do our work.
2.Put a direct link to your web page when ours is set-up (soon)
3.Exchange ideas on feminist theory, organizational techniques etc.
4.Advertise and promote all events happening in your part of the world when we are asked by inquiries that aren't aware of you.


Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 18:46:16 -0300
From: Peter Davison <PDavison@ccn.cs.dal.ca>
Subject: Brazilian Men Forwarded

Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 18:22:46 -0400
From: CARAMBOL@TURING.UNICAMP.BR
Subject: men's studies

Hi, my name is Marko Monteiro and I am an undergraduate student here in Brazil, at the State University of Campinas (UNICAMP). I am currently doing research on masculinity and gender and am looking
for references on the subject via the e-mail. If there is any information that I could get from you, I would appreciate it very much. My e-mail is carambol@turing.unicamp.br. Thanks!

From: CARAMBOL@TURING.UNICAMP.BR
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 14:31:22 -0300
Subject: men's studies

Thanks, Ken, for getting in touch with me. I would love to get the pile o' stuff that you talked about. My university, although it is one of the best in Brazil, has a very incipient nucleus for gender studies and nothing on masculinity. Whatever you give me will be a great contribution to the university as well.

My address is: Marko Monteiro Rua Joseph Cooper Reinhardt 233
Vila Marieta, Campinas - SP CEP:13042-200, BRAZIL
Thanks again, keep in touch!

From: JayBRoller@aol.com
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 03:00:25 -0400
Subject: Men &Masculinity Conference (NOMAS)

I received an E-mail from Bill Usher. I want to let you and your colleagues know about the 21st ANNUAL MEN & MASCULINITY CONFERENCE happening in Portland, Oregon July 25-28. If you can help spread the word, I would appreciate it. Further information at
http://www.spacestar/users/abtnomas or contact me directly.

Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 12:53:05 -0400
From: mensnet@magi.com (Mens Network for Change)
Subject: Library on MNC

The web site now has a new page called the Library. Its function is to
offer in text (and hopefully soon, PDF) format, articles, talks, etc from
various individuals.

It is a small offering at present, as only two people have supplied us with
material. If you have material in electronic form, (or you have some from
an author you like and have permission to re-print) we would be happy to
add it to the Library.

Michael for MensNet

Found in the pages of the European Mixed Group Against Sexism Mixture - Anti-sexist Alternative located in Aachen, Germany

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The International Anti-sexist Anthem

Trash, trash all the nations
We are the new feminist generation

We destroy sexist nations
We pick up new bases

We're gonna start an insurrection
We're gonna find a new direction

Together in a wide union
Women and men need emancipation

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